17 thoughts on “Why are rail subsidies so high?”

  1. Posted 22/01/2013 at 12:29 | Permalink

    Indeed, this agenda has been supported by the environmentalist agenda applied to land use planning, which has severely constrained growth in housing supply, by imposing urban growth limits around London, meaning that villages served by rail for historic reasons had dramatic inflation in housing prices, supported by subsidised rail services that made them attractive for people seeking to commute to central London. This had the effect of pricing others in those towns out of housing even if they worked in the same town, because well-heeled central London workers in financial services, business services and the public sector priced them out of the market. These London workers would have probably chosen homes closer to London had the land been set free to allow it to develop.

    By contrast, the highway network has generated tens of billions of surplus pounds year after year, and much of it is left to crumble or have bottlenecks for the want of an extra lane, or a flyover/underpass.

    The political vagaries of all of this are appalling. Ken Livingstone had a policy of zero growth in highway capacity so as a result he:

    – Redeveloped land set aside decades ago adjacent to Savoy Circus on the A40 for grade separation at a notorious bottleneck for “affordable” housing, so that the highway scheme could never proceed, but leaving dozens of people living adjacent to a congested 6 lane highway and dangerous intersection;

    – Provided lukewarm support for the long standing proposal to fill the notorious bottleneck gap in the A406 at Bounds Green with a 6 lane highway, resulting in it being scrapped in favour of a cheap upgrade of the current road, with one extra lane, and a bikelane, which while halving traffic queues, still left a whole community living on top of a congested set of urban streets either side of a major 6 lane dual carriageway;

    – Supported a bridge replacement project on the A406 at Hangar Lane in Ealing where the 4-lane road narrows to 2-lanes with a 2-lane bridge, even though there is sufficient road corridor space on the southern side of the bridge to widen the road to 4 lanes through to Uxbridge Rd, relieving another bottleneck at relatively low expense.

    Time to end this policy obsession with technology over what the market wants.

  2. Posted 22/01/2013 at 14:23 | Permalink

    @Libertyscott – Thank you for your insightful comments about planning policy. The ‘stack’em and pack’em’ policies of recent years have implicitly supported the rail industry, particularly since planners have effectively forced developers to build along public transport corridors.

  3. Posted 15/07/2013 at 13:17 | Permalink

    I wonder if the British taxpayer would like to know that several millions of transport subsidies are being used to line other private company directors pockets

  4. Posted 19/07/2013 at 15:11 | Permalink

    Excellent article. If the government was to step back resources would go to the most efficient areas of the railway industry such as the South East and inter-city lines which is where rail is a viable substitute to other forms of transport. Currently there are routes that are 50% subsidised by the taxpayer but utilised by just 2-3% of rail users. This current state of the industry just isn’t allocatively efficient.

  5. Posted 18/08/2013 at 15:46 | Permalink

    How can government be subsidising Crossrail? It isn’t even built yet.

    Or maybe muddling investment in with day-to-day operations is your idea of economic literacy…

  6. Posted 20/08/2013 at 21:48 | Permalink

    Unless Crossrail is fully privately financed and its capital costs are expected to be recovered from users, then it is subsidised. Heathrow Airport Ltd would happily fully fund a third runway entirely from airport charges and other revenue from airlines and airport customers. Crossrail is another transfer from non-rail users to rail users.

  7. Posted 21/08/2013 at 00:09 | Permalink

    @Libertyscott But the article says “At £6 billion per year (including Crossrail)”. You can only include Crossrail by (a) treating the capital being spent on construction as revenue or (b) rolling estimated future subsidies into what is stated as a current figure. Neither is logical … or particularly honest.

  8. Posted 14/10/2013 at 12:24 | Permalink

    Interesting points of view but sadly no less simplistic than the radical environmental and egalitarian lobbies you object to and conflate. The arguments for each lobby, and radical capitalism, are different.

    On the narrow argument about rail and infrastructure it is hard to imagine how everyone driving into London would make the city more efficient – or where the cars would be left while the people who drove them worked since every car would require at least as much space as every person does in an office.

    Equally it is hard to see how government investing in infrastructure is wrong – that is why we have governments as well as private enterprise. Governments are there to pay for things that private enterprise does not or can not pay for. People argued against building the first motorways for similar reason you use against railways.

    LibertyScott’s argument that housing in the green and pleasant periphery of London is subsidised is excellent and, one would think, appeals to both the radical capitalists and radical egalitarian lobbies. The radical environmentalist would argue that the intangible qualities of the surrounding countryside outweigh any short term monetary value the capitalist developer sees in developing the land. The egalitarian will be torn between supporting the capitalist in expanding access to housing and supporting the environmentalist in arguing for universal access to the countryside. The local capitalist will be equally torn between the principals of the market and protecting or enhancing the value of their asset by supporting the environmentalist.

    Unfortunately life is a lot more complicated than radical protagonists are prepared to acknowledge.

  9. Posted 14/02/2014 at 10:53 | Permalink

    In the last week I have had to catch the train 10 times, more than in the last decade combined, only two of those trains were on time. At the high cost I paid for a 20 min ride I found this unacceptable so wanted to look at how much the taxpayer subsidised the rail network and found this article interesting but in the interest of understanding I have a question or two.
    If the subsidies are dicontinued then the rail networks will need to recoup that money will they not? Which means higher costs to the user? Which means less users, which in turn would mean higher costs etc….
    Is the rail network in such a disorganised mess that we are in a position that it would be easier to cancel all the contracts, bring everything back under the public umbrella and start from scratch with a view at looking at how other countries have privatised their networks?
    This may seem obvious to some and there is probably a valid reason why it can not be done but I am not an economanist or the most educated as my spelling and grammer will prove but I would like to get a little closer to understanding.

  10. Posted 01/04/2014 at 23:04 | Permalink

    In reply to above…

    Regardless of any legal problems with nationalising the railways, it would simply be far too expensive to even consider buying out all the rail franchises.

    One aspect that means the UK would never have a rail system as good as other countries is that train tracks are hemmed in.

    To get more trains into London Bridge, for example, you need more train lines. To do this you need more train tracks. To do this you would have to bulldoze hundreds (thousands?) of offices and homes. Good luck getting that chief through Parliament!

    To get double decker trains in operation, you would need to raze or raise just about every tunnel and bridge that the trains go under or through. Again, lots of £.

    100 years ago our train system was the best but now we’re just living with a very, very old legacy. The best we can hope for is that there’ll be sufficient deregulation of fossil fuels so that global warming increases and then the country floods enough that the train system can become a network of canal routes instead.

  11. Posted 25/06/2014 at 10:27 | Permalink

    “As a result, the productivity-boosting innovations that have cut costs in other industries did not materialise on the railways. Indeed regulation is now so restrictive that private rail firms have effectively become subcontractors for the Department for Transport.”

    Can you please point out one example of privatised public utilities where prices have come down? I’m struggling to find any.

    In most cases, costs have gone UP – not down!

  12. Posted 25/06/2014 at 11:26 | Permalink

    Costs have gone up largely as a result of government regulation. For example, water firms have been forced to implement various EC directives; electricity generators have been forced to build expensive offshore windfarms.

  13. Posted 09/08/2014 at 13:46 | Permalink

    Given that the IEA is funded by the car industry, it’s really not surprising that they put forward such a skewed view of the rail network.

  14. Posted 02/01/2016 at 17:19 | Permalink

    It would be better for the environment to tarmac the railways into london and put free carparks in place of the stations. The cost of subing rail would pay for a free taxi service for everyone with change to spare. Let rail users pay full cost, every other transport system has to. Trains are not green, it is18c tech using thousands of tons of steal.

  15. Posted 12/05/2016 at 20:40 | Permalink

    Where is the evidence that environmentalism led to a rise in subsidy for rail?
    Rail subsidies became a reality as a result of the 1968 Transport Act (although writing off BR’s debts prior to this might be seen as a sort of subsidy).
    The real and obvious reason that you are missing for the rise in rail subsidies is that the railways are not permitted to charge what it actually costs to operate the trains. This a largely political fix and is down to the fact that lots of people in the home counties don’t believe that they should have to pay for what they use – which seems odd as many of them work in the City of London
    But there is the rub – what do railway subsidies really subsidise? the bloated financial services industry, of course, subsidised through transport and other covert means in a way that the steel industry, for instance, would never be supported.

    Tanya Jackson
    Author: British Rail: The Nation’s Railway

  16. Posted 12/05/2016 at 21:44 | Permalink

    “The cost of subing rail would pay for a free taxi service for everyone with change to spare.”

    I very much doubt it. The cost of a taxi ride into London from Woking (one way) is about £60. That works out at something like £30,000 a year. Now, the cost of a season ticket from Woking is about £3,000. That will be subsidised to the tune of something like 60%, maybe more. You would have no more than £3000 a head to spend on taxis if you cut rail subsidies…
    Of course, the cost of taxis may come down if they are booked on a seasonal basis….

    But I think that the real issue here is manpower. One driver per person cranks up the costs whereas one driver for a few hundred people is more economic. As ever, it is manpower that costs. What is the first thing they cut in any business when time are tough? Manpower. Says it all, really.

    Tanya Jackson
    Author: British Rail: The Nations Railway

  17. Posted 13/05/2016 at 17:43 | Permalink

    What I intended to mean above is that rail season tickets are, I believe, currently subsidised from 60%, ie 40% is subsidy. Even if it more – and much more – the idea that you could pay for a taxi for everyone is just arithmetically absurd. The congestion would also be massive.
    On that matter, something that the outpouring above does not treat properly is a distinction between different environmental goals. I presume that the author has in his sights air pollution and begins with hostility towards the *science* of global warming. However, “environment” can embrace a lot of things, including more comfortable, better and safer spaces for pedestrians, residents and even drivers. It is these many boats that the politicians will never rock, and perhaps they shouldn’t?
    Anyway, the author is simply wrong to attribute this to the nineties. David Cameron’s promise to keep rail fare rises to below inflation until 2020 is just a continuation of the cheap-fares-for-votes policy that the conservatives started in the fifties (see Terry Gourvish’s first business history of British Railways) It was codified into law in the sixties but both sides of the political establishment sign up to it even today. they would lose power otherwise….
    . Tanya Jackson Author: British Rail: The Nations Railway

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