3 thoughts on “The problem with “hidden agenda” accusations”

  1. Posted 23/08/2019 at 17:10 | Permalink

    The ‘Hidden Agenda’ argument is not a genuine concern. It’s just a convenient way for those who want to keep the NHS as a public sector monopoly organisation to try to discredit those who disagree with them.

    Of course, such people often have their own hidden agenda. Often they are diehard socialists opposed to private business in general (i.e. they support nationalisation of industry) and sometimes they are employed by the NHS and are just defending their own interests (the BMA’s hostility to private sector involvement is a good example of this).

  2. Posted 26/08/2019 at 14:01 | Permalink

    I was interested to read Dr. Niemez’s critique of the NHS and, in particular, his comparisons with health delivery in other developed countries. Britain has always seemed to be breathtakingly ignorant of overseas solutions to common problems. And it is perfectly true that the NHS has always been an unacknowledged system for rationing health care. However, I believe any valid review of UK health services has not only to identify where the service is failing but it has also to demonstrate that like is being compared with like. At the crudest level, percentage of national GDP spending on the service overall and on particular subsets of specialities would be needed to show that one method of delivery was superior to another. I find it unconvincing to complain about the poor showing of the NHS when little attempt is made to investigate the potential effect of increased expenditure. By all means, raise the potential for other options but only when it is clear that social medicine of the NHS nature does not, or cannot, provide a similar quality service for a similar price.
    It also remains problematic that the plethora of systems reviewed by Dr. Niemetz appear not to have revealed an outstandingly effective ‘front-runner’. This suggests that the author is more concerned about the illusory option of providing more choice than about the fundamental quality of the service being delivered. It seems strange to advocate the replacement of one sort of social health insurance by another – this would appear to be a distinction without a difference. Yes, a mandatory SHI scheme might allow different levels of ‘excess’ to be selected but is this really a key desirable in comparison with a unified, nationalised service? If everybody has a minimum level of health requirement, how far is it advantageous to provide this level of choice at the expense of increased administration for billing, recharging, overhead allocation, assessment etc. and, in some cases, shareholder profits?
    The discussion, of course, fundamentally rests on the left/right view of individual choice against community provision and perhaps in this case, whether individual choice in health services could be made sufficiently meaningful to overcome the advantages of central planning.

  3. Posted 08/10/2019 at 10:29 | Permalink

    The concept of “hidden agenda” is being used far too much these days. It seems to be the present left’s argument against anything that it doesn’t like but cannot actually argue against, or indeed that their principles would (if they thought a bit harder) probably need them to support against the gut instinct.

    The comparison to immigration is quite apropos. We have heard so very many times over the past few years that opposition to immigration is always based in racism; that there is not actually any rational opposition to it at all, and any seemingly rational arguments are just canards. The same for the NHS; that any argument for change stems from a lust for American healthcare, whether there is any proof of that or not.

    In a sense this has been a successful tactic for the left, in that it plays very well to their hardcore supporters. No matter how convincingly you argue for whatever reform, such people are simply immune to it because they presume bad faith and simply refuse to engage with the discussion whatsoever. This helps to enforce orthodoxy upon on the left – There can be no dissent if there is no acceptable way to voice it.

    But in the end the “hidden agenda” is simply a conspiracy theory, and overtly so. It’s an excuse to not discuss, and to never shift their policy positions. And the hard left, while vocal, are haemorrhaging support because of it. The complete refusal to participate in the debate may help them to keep a tight control of their agenda, but it also shows them to be interested in the ideology and not the outcome.

    It is extremely interesting to me that the hardcore protectors of the NHS, who laud the Nordic model in almost every other area, are against an actual Nordic healthcare system with cost sharing at the point of use (ie you pay a ~£20 to see the GP up to a certain ceiling). I have never even heard them argue against it, simply kneejerk to defending the NHS and preventing reform. There is a lot of europhile sentiment around today, and yet few who are both europhile and pro-state healthcare seem to know how the Belgian or Dutch or Nordic systems even run, or what makes them better than ours. Despite their desire to be more continental, both in our democratic structures and in our ties to the continent, they would be entirely happy to let the NHS moulder and learn none of the best lessons that come from Europe today.

    Perhaps this is a result of the NHS being what it is today? The state monopoly means that there are never any upstart, disruptive actors coming in and shaking things up. In the world of business, even if a domestic supplier didn’t want to, we would expect to see European or American or Japanese companies coming in and running it “their way” and proving that they are more effective. And in time those lessons would be taken on board by British companies, who would then become more productive and effective. Simply by being outside the marketplace makes the NHS (and it’s supporters) uninteresting in learning international best practise. Also, the division between the administrative and clinical aspects of the NHS makes it so much harder to foster any kind of native innovation.

    But to left, these arguments regarding more successful systems, or the stifled landscape in the UK, mean nothing. They care for “purity of orthodoxy” as Orwell said. They are not interested in improving the outcomes for patients, they are interested in bolstering this bastion of state power.

    The NHS being totally public gives them vast and indeed unprecedented freedom to meddle in people’s lives. The NHS being totally public unlocks policy ideas like the sugar tax, and punitive taxes on many other things. It allows for minimum unit pricing, and attempts to tax smoking out of existence. So many horrendous plans have come from Public Health England (and indeed from the Scottish Parliament) over the past decade which are only even considered because they have the huge writ to reduce NHS costs no matter how dictatorial.

    It is this that makes me think that the modern protectors of the NHS are in fact projecting. They have the hidden agenda. They think they know best, about smoking and vaping and drinking and drugs and eating and a million other things. They want government force to tell the plebs how to live. Moving away from the state monopoly of healthcare reduces the state’s power, hugely so.

    I have heard it argued by a friend who is a great student of Ludwig Von Mesis that state healthcare is, much like the “green new deal”, a socialist canard to push towards a huge central state via the back door, and it is this agenda that the NHS defenders are really following. The patients don’t get a look in. They don’t matter. They are just an excuse to push the same old big state, anti-liberal, anti-capitalist agenda. The “climate crisis” much like the “NHS crisis” are being used to try to grow the power of the state.

    I don’t know how much I believe this line of reasoning. I doubt most of the NHS defenders have thought about it to that depth, or do so with bad (or socialist) intentions. But the NHS has been sold for many years as a tenet of faith. If pushed, those NHS defenders would be forced to admit that keeping the NHS totally public is more important to them than saving patients lives.

    It is that level that the debate needs to be had on. We need to push hard on the point of patient care and patient outcomes, divorced from the discussion of how to fund it. We need to establish as a precondition of the debate that we must pursue the best possible outcome for the patients.

    In so many words, if the left want to refuse to have a debate then we have to make sure that they are refusing to talk about improving the quality of care and nothing else. We need to hammer that point and make it publicly obvious that those defenders of the NHS are defending the idea of your grandma dying on a hospital trolley to protect the big institution that makes them feel warm and fuzzy.

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